Sofia Lazarides found safe

I have just recieved word from NCMEC that Sofia Lazarides has been found safe. I have resolved her case and if I find an article I will post it. The new case is that of Noel Burgener. Also, Adriana Carlos has been added to the California Kids pages. this!

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    Debi said,

    February 26, 2009 @ 8:40 pm

    Here is the link:

  2. 2

    forthelost said,

    February 27, 2009 @ 9:13 am

    Thank you for the link.

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    Someone Who Cares said,

    February 28, 2009 @ 8:57 pm

    Sometimes a child being “found” is not such great news.

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    forthelost said,

    March 1, 2009 @ 12:05 pm

    And what tale of abuse that Sofia’s dad inflicted upon her, leaving her poor mother no choice but to run because of the evil conspiracy of the courts will you tell me?

    I’ll probably not believe it, but will listen anyway.

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    Someone Who Cares said,

    March 1, 2009 @ 7:26 pm

    No, thank you. You already gave me your opinion without my response. Things are sometimes more complicated than meets the eye. Having worked with children and families for years and years, I can say that I do not judge so quickly without first hearing. Best wishes.

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    forthelost said,

    March 1, 2009 @ 7:55 pm

    You had to see the warning to parental abductor defenders. Don’t say you weren’t warned.

    You are also quick to judge – the fact you’re judging Sofia’s dad doesn’t make it less.

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    forthelost said,

    March 1, 2009 @ 8:12 pm

    Oh, and in scientific experiments there is something called the null hypothesis, which states that the experiment will not work. It is always assumed to be true unless all other possibilities besides the experimental hypothesis are ruled out. I operate under the null hypothesis as much as I can. If you want to say that her dad was abusive, you need to rule out all other hypotheses. The burden of proof is on the accuser.

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    Someone Who Cares said,

    March 1, 2009 @ 9:28 pm

    Forthelost, you did not allow me to give my opinion without first giving me your judgement before I even told you what I was thinking. I never said anything about the father being. Blessed be the child.

  9. 9

    Someone Who Cares said,

    March 1, 2009 @ 9:29 pm

    That was supposed to read: the father being abusive. That is not for me to determine.

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    forthelost said,

    March 2, 2009 @ 12:50 pm

    If it’s not up to you to determine, then why would you imply that her being found is not a good thing? That seems to indicate that you think the mother must have had a good reason for running.

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    Someone Who Cares said,

    March 9, 2009 @ 12:07 am

    The point is that each situation is unique and before you place your judgment with a blind eye…you best be up close and personal to the people involved. I understand your cause, forthelost, and you should know that you do sound very judging before “listening.” Your words state that you do not care to listen.

    My reference to the fact that it is not up to me to judge who is at fault has nothing to do with anything but the fact that no matter how you want to look at it… the child loses. You, forthelost, never gave me the opportunity to speak my words before judgment. I am sorry you did not want to hear and judged so quickly. The point is moot, for neither of us “win.” The child has lost.

    I will not write again. I just hope that in the future you do not judge people from afar with no information. Everyone needs a cause that makes them feel important. Best wishes to you and may you feel important with your website.

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    Someone Who Cares said,

    March 9, 2009 @ 12:15 am

    One last word, for the lost. YOU did not “resolve” the case. You found information from somehwere else and posted it. That is not resolving.

  13. 13

    forthelost said,

    March 9, 2009 @ 8:44 am

    I use “resolved” in this context to mean “the person has been found and I have moved them to the located persons section of my site.”

    Situations may be unique, but being kidnapped is detrimential to the child. Period. If the mother is going to claim the child’s life has been disrupted now that she must move, then she should have thought of that before kidnapping her. I freely admit to judging people. I’m not nice to criminals. Sorry if that upsets you.

    Your vehemence here makes me wonder if you are related to the mother or a friend of hers. You seem to be pretty convinced that the mom must have had a good reason to kidnap her.

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    sofia lazarides said,

    March 12, 2009 @ 5:42 pm

    I was abused by my father… my mom had a very good reason for taking off with me…. I did agree to take off with her and I did not want to be found so you all need to shut it when it comes to my case cause you have no idea what hell my dad put me and my mom and my brother through… do not be so quick to judge cause all of yoou are soooo completly wrong it’s not even funny… I DID NOT WANT TO BE FOUND…….

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    forthelost said,

    March 12, 2009 @ 5:50 pm

    I’ll have to have a bit more evidence than than that, considering you’re in Denver and Sofia is apparently now living in Montana.

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    Voice Of Truth said,

    March 13, 2009 @ 3:03 am

    Amazing to me that you are so quick to decide that the father must be innocent!!!! Why? More importantly…what gives you the right to judge and “make decisions” on this case? You don’t know anything about this case at all!! You heard from the child herself and you don’t even believe her…! What do you mean you’ll have to have a bit more evidence??? What more evidence do you need??????????? And why are you saying she is in Denver?

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    forthelost said,

    March 13, 2009 @ 8:34 am

    Denver is the place her IP resolves to. This is inconsistant with what I have heard; thus I wondered if this was truly the child.

    As for believing the father, as far as I know he is not being charged with any crime. The mother is being charged with kidnapping. As I said, I’m not nice to criminals, and I have no evidence the father is one.

    The big judgement I’ve made is that kidnapping is wrong. And plenty of abducting mothers try to claim their kids were being abused. (Fathers do it on occasion too, but strangely I don’t see people saying they were justified in running off…)

    Do you have any evidence that the mother’s abuse claims, whatever they may be, are true? Or just her word?

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    sofia lazarides said,

    March 13, 2009 @ 10:42 am

    where the hell did you get thati was in denver???
    I am the real sofia… I am in montana belgrade montana!!!
    I go to belgrade middle school… I was born sept 12th 1994….
    my grandma and grandpa were missionaries…. oikay I am the realllll sofia karin lazarides…. okay my father abused me very bad he also abused my mother…
    he abused her so much she went into early labor with me…… thery had to give her some kind of medicine that delayed her labor…… my father did sexually abuse me I waas there….. right now I’m in my computer class at school my teacher is mr. elliott so I am the real sofia… and you know what you need to shut up you do NOT know my mother and you only know what the news tell you and half the stuff they say is a lie… we never lived in guam or canada…. she did not have a social secruity card on her she had 1 credit and one debt…… and she is not a criminal…… okay so learn the REAL FACTS before you blog about it.. you know nothing about me and my mom…….

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    forthelost said,

    March 13, 2009 @ 11:13 am

    Okay. Then one, why was your mother only allowed supervised visitation, and two, why are the police saying such lies to the news?

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    sofia lazarides said,

    March 14, 2009 @ 2:58 pm

    First of all the reason she only had supervised visits is because of my dad he is also the one who put restraining orders against my own brothers. my mom never had a fair custody battle… she didnt the kind of money to get a good lawyer and my dad did.. that lawyer that went to court on wedsday that claimed she was my lawyer never met her never talked to her shes just on my dads payroll…. half the stuff thats happened to me and my mom and my brothers you wouldnt believe cause your like everyone else i

  21. 21

    sofia lazarides said,

    March 14, 2009 @ 3:06 pm

    tried to tell about him molesting me.. you cant get it through your lil brain that maybe that judge was bought and you just look at like poor him he hasnt seen his daughter in over 6 years i wonder why maybe if he was a good dad like acts that he is maybe we would have never left my mom gave me the choice of staying with my dad or taking off with her and guess what i chose to not be his punching bag anymore… my mom is not a bad person. for protecting her daughter their is actually a law that says if you

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    sofia lazarides said,

    March 14, 2009 @ 3:11 pm

    believe that your child is being abused in any way you have a right to take them.. and again the police are saying all that cause they dont know the truth so their spreading lies about my mom bcuz thats the easiet thing to do….

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    forthelost said,

    March 14, 2009 @ 5:59 pm

    The law that says that also says that you must tell law enforcement where you are at the time if you do so.

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    sofia lazarides said,

    March 14, 2009 @ 6:22 pm

    yeah. but you dont know my dad….. he is a very evil and controlling man. hes been trying to get back at my mom for divorcing him

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    forthelost said,

    March 14, 2009 @ 6:23 pm

    And I bet your mother has said that hundreds of times over the last six years.

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    sofia lazarides said,

    March 14, 2009 @ 7:23 pm

    you know what you know nothing your just some stupid blogger okay. my mom never brainwashed me ever okay…… untill you walked a mile in my moms shoes or mine you need to shut up. i love my mom with all my heart and she is not this bad person like everyone keeps trying to say… even you. you dont know me or my mom or my dad

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    forthelost said,

    March 14, 2009 @ 7:38 pm

    I will not deny I am a stupid blogger. In that you are just telling me what I already know.

    You’re right, I don’t know personally anyone in this case. However, you are asking me to judge the father without knowing him and taking the mother at her word. Why is this okay and not the other way around?

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    Voice Of Truth said,

    March 14, 2009 @ 8:04 pm

    First of all, you might want to get your facts straight before you simply state them as fact! The mother is NOT charged with “kidnapping” or “abduction”!! The one and only charge against her is “Custodial Interference”! Second, she is NOT a criminal, only “charged”! A person is supposed to be INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!! Third, accusations were brought against the father for “Child Molestation” and “Child Abuse”, but the case was never heard and the judge suppressed the evidence. Unfortunately, money buys people in all “walks” of life…especially the legal system!!!!!!! The father is a VERY wealthy and famous man…that doesn’t make him innocent or a loving father!!!!! That only makes him powerful and able to manipulate people in high places!! Fourth, I happen to know this family and I have seen this man’s abusive behaviour to the children and the mother!! You should believe the child herself!!!!! She has clearly spoken out here and that takes guts to do so!!! Kudos to you, Sofia!!! Good for you!!!!!! I BELIEVE YOU!!!!!!! I’m praying for your safety until you are returned to the arms of your loving mother!!!!!

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    sofia lazarides said,

    March 14, 2009 @ 9:03 pm

    and it also doesnt mean you can take one side and ignore all the facts

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    forthelost said,

    March 15, 2009 @ 8:45 am

    You have not supplied evidence. Once again, see the null hypothesis.

    Custodial interference is a charge commonly given to abductors when there is no specific parental kidnapping statute. And in this case the mother is not arguing that she didn’t do it, so there is no question of innocence. What she is trying to do is offer mitigating circumstances that may absolve her from charges. And I find it amusing that you say innocent until proven guilty but expect me to take you at your word the father is guilty.

    Everyone in this case is being paid off and supressing evidence? In this big conspiracy there are no whistleblowers at all?

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    sofia lazarides said,

    March 15, 2009 @ 9:57 am

    haha you make me laugh you with your blog you think you know everything well tell me this is it really kidnapping if the child wants to go?

  32. 32

    forthelost said,

    March 15, 2009 @ 12:18 pm

    Since a child is not truly capable of making that decision, yes. There are teenagers who have run away with adults willingly, but the adult is still charged with kidnapping.

    And I’m fully aware I know very little. Hence the null hypothesis.

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    sofia lazarides said,

    March 15, 2009 @ 3:38 pm

    you know what i’m done with trying to explain myself to you sense you wont listein either way

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    Voice Of Truth said,

    March 15, 2009 @ 7:12 pm

    Actually…once again you are stating your ignorant opinions as facts when they are not!!!! Custodial Interference is NOT nearly as serious of a charge as Kidnapping!!! Sofia stayed with her mother (The one who carried her in her own womb and went down to death’s door to give birth to her!) rather than some stranger stealing or “kidnapping” her away from an actual parent!!! And how do you know what the mother is or isn’t arguing since she has been given NO representation and the father with allllllll of his money has a whole “rats nest” of lying, decietful, manipultive representation, tainting the jury pool with the media, in full regalla!!!

    As far as evidence goes, what better evidence could you possibly be given than the child’s own word herself???!!! Believe me, there is PLENTY of evidence that I’m sure will be presented to the courts when the time is right!! Evidence that will leave ignorant, air-blowing bloggers like you, and the “hype-hungry”, lying media with egg in your faces wondering why you just never “got it” in the first place!!! How’s that for “whistleblowing”?!

    And You know, you really give yourself away…clearly a man… who is a missogonist, and probably has gone through a bad divorce or custody battle yourself or have been “touched” by one and have decided that all women are “guilty” and all men are “innocent”!! Sorry, that your world view is so tainted and you can’t see pass your own story!!! Believe me, guilt and innocence are prevelent in both men and women!!

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    forthelost said,

    March 15, 2009 @ 7:28 pm

    I’m laughing hysterically now. I’m female. I have no children. I’ve never been in a serious relationship. And my parents are divorced amicably. But thanks for playing along anyway.

    So dads aren’t real parents now?

    In every case I’ve seen that they claim to have evidence, they don’t ever seem to come up with it, or it shows something different than what they say. And I am thinking in this case the child’s word has been strongly influenced by her mother.

    When a male parental kidnapper came here and tried to defend himself, I was no nicer. Although I don’t seem to ever get as angry as they do.

    It’s spelled “misogynist” by the way.

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    Someone Who Cares said,

    March 15, 2009 @ 9:21 pm

    For the lost….is lost. She does not want to listen to anyone but herself. Let her go on believing in her own truth. Do not waste yourself with a petty blogger. She will fight you with meaningless truths and her “null hypothesis.” A complete joke. Move onto people who have something intelligent to say and stop wasting your time building upon her useless blog of regurgitated information.

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    Someone Who Cares said,

    March 15, 2009 @ 9:26 pm

    P.S. If you would like to give spelling advice to your responders you should check your own. “InconsitAnt” is spelled “inconsitEnt.” Check yourself.

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    Meaghan said,

    March 16, 2009 @ 12:33 am

    “Meaningless truths”? How can truth be meaningless?

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    Voice Of Truth said,

    March 16, 2009 @ 5:05 am

    WOW, you can’t seem to even follow along a simple sentence??!! I never said that Dad’s were not real parents!!! I was referring to strangers kidnapping as opposed to parents interfering.

    Regarding your identity, whether you are male or female…clearly either way you have some serious un-dealt with mother issues and “misogyny” issues!! (Thanks for looking up the correct spelling for me by the way!)

    Influenced…really????!!!! You truly don’t understand sexual abuse reactions in children and you are thinking VERY, VERY WRONG pal!!!!!!! Maybe you shouldn’t think about other people’s business and mind your own obvious issues!

    If you are insinuating that I am the mother you truly ,once again, show your complete ignorance!! Horrifically, she sits in a horrible jail cell right now while her petaphile ex-husband has sadly regained custody of the very child he so abused!! But I guess that makes people like you actually happy…???!!!!! “Someone Who Cares” is right!!!! I can’t waste anymore of my valuable time on an opinionated, misinformed, misguided, ignorant blogger like yourself!!

    You need to beg God for mercy for the stance you have taken AGAINST the innocent and abused and FOR the petophile and abuser!!!!!!

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    Voice Of Truth said,

    March 16, 2009 @ 5:14 am

    P.S. Oops… don’t go on a prideful spell check frenzy again! My finger slipped and hit the enter button before I was ready…I know it’s spelt “pedophile”.

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    forthelost said,

    March 16, 2009 @ 8:17 am

    Thank you for the spelling correction. I will change it.

    I never insinuated you are the mother; I suspect you are related to the mother, or at the very least a close friend, but I doubt you are the mother.

    I oppose all parental kidnappers, male or female. I suppose that properly makes me a misanthrope.

    The null hypothesis may be stupid to you, but it’s the foundation of all scientific experimentation and I find it quite useful.

    The very fact you are getting mad and not producing any actual evidence makes me think you do not have any.

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    sofia lazarides said,

    March 28, 2009 @ 2:16 pm

    oh f.y.i the wonderfull father is still abusing me…. VERBALLY!! and i love my mom she is the greatest mom in the world…. i miss her cooking i miss her voice i miss her hugs… and i will do anything to be with so you can just stop trying to say how bad of a person she is cuz she is the sweetest most kindest person you would ever meet

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    forthelost said,

    March 28, 2009 @ 3:16 pm

    I did not say she was a bad person; I said she was a criminal. She has broken the law.

    If you’re really being abused, you should be talking to the police or child protective services, not some random idiot blogger.

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    Voice Of Truth said,

    March 30, 2009 @ 11:39 pm

    Well…you FINALY got something right…,”random idiot blogger”!!

  45. 45

    forthelost said,

    March 31, 2009 @ 8:08 am

    Hey, I agreed with it before. I was just repeating your wording.

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    Voice Of Truth said,

    April 1, 2009 @ 4:56 pm

    No, what I said was, “I can’t waste anymore of my valuable time on an opinionated, misinformed, misguided, ignorant blogger like yourself!!” And I meant it! That’s why I only responded when I saw that you finally said something that is correct for the first time in all these blogs!!

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    forthelost said,

    April 1, 2009 @ 5:29 pm

    Okay, but I still won’t contest it. Although I don’t consider being opinionated a bad thing.

    That’s the only thing I’ve said that’s true? None of the people here are missing? The found ones are still missing? The deceased ones are still alive? Wow. I need to make some changes.

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    forthelost said,

    April 1, 2009 @ 5:30 pm

    And I must be doing something right, as you keep saying you won’t be back and still return.

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